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Friday, February 29, 2008

Gun-control case divides state AGs

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A gun-control case to be argued before the U.S. Supreme Court March 18 has exposed a division among state attorneys general over the meaning of the Second Amendment, the fiercely debated constitutional provision that guarantees Americans the right to “keep and bear arms.”

Attorneys general from 31 states have filed a legal brief urging the high court to strike down the law being challenged in the case, the District of Columbia’s strict, 32-year-old ban on handguns. Led by Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott (R), the group backs a security guard who wants the district’s statute to be ruled unconstitutional.

Lending their support to the District of Columbia are attorneys general from five other states — Hawaii, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey and New York — who say reasonable regulation of dangerous firearms is constitutional and keeps the public safe. A sixth attorney general, Lisa Madigan (D) of Illinois, sided with the district in an earlier court filing, but declined to join the supporting states’ latest brief.

The opposing views of the state attorneys general — who next week will attend their annual meeting in Washington, D.C. — are among more than 60 “friend of the court” briefs filed by elected officials, interest groups, academics and others in an effort to influence the Supreme Court. The politically charged case even has divided the Bush administration: Vice President Dick Cheney joined 305 members of Congress in urging the court to strike down the handgun ban, while Justice Department lawyers recommended remanding the case to a lower court for further review.

Filed as D.C. v. Heller, the case hinges on whether the security guard, D.C. resident Dick Anthony Heller, may bring his work-issued handgun home with him to protect himself in what he considers a dangerous area of the nation’s capital. Heller is challenging a district ordinance that forbids handguns at home and requires rifles and shotguns to be disassembled or trigger-locked.

The district says the ordinance improves public safety by keeping small, easy-to-conceal handguns off the streets, though that assertion has been fiercely challenged. Gun violence remains a problem in the district, where 181 people were murdered last year, and dozens of handguns have been seized by police in recent months. Supporters of the handgun ban stress that it has reduced violence and would be even more effective if the district’s neighbors, Maryland and Virginia, had similar laws in place.

Attorneys for Heller contend the district’s ban plainly violates the Second Amendment: “A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

The case marks the justices’ first evaluation of the Second Amendment since 1939, and raises a question that has been debated for decades: whether the amendment provides an individual right to possess guns, as Heller’s lawyers argue, or a collective right associated with service in a “militia,” such as a state-run National Guard unit.

If the court finds gun ownership to be an individual right, lawyers on both sides of the debate say, the case could leave state and local statutes across the country vulnerable to legal attack. That has prompted state attorneys general to enter the debate.

“We certainly believe the decision could affect Hawaii laws,” Hawaii Attorney General Mark J. Bennett (R) told Stateline.org in a telephone interview. “We think that a decision that the Second Amendment prohibits strict gun-control laws is just wrong.”

Hawaii and the other states supporting the District of Columbia in the case have gun restrictions that are among the toughest in the nation, according to a state-by-state ranking released last month by the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, a Washington, D.C.-based group that advocates for tough gun-control laws.

While no states have outright handgun bans like the district’s — only the city of Chicago does — the five states whose attorneys general are supporting the district do restrict the sale of assault weapons such as semi-automatic firearms, according to the Brady Campaign.

A Supreme Court ruling against the district’s ban on a specific type of gun could jeopardize state statutes against assault weapons, said Dennis Henigan, the Brady Campaign's legal director. He said the five attorneys general supporting the district are doing so in the hopes of staving off potential future challenges against statutes in their states.

“The states that have a great deal at stake are coming into this case not because they are in favor of handgun bans, but because they are concerned about the ultimate implications (of the court’s decision),” Henigan said.

The attorneys general supporting Heller in the case, meanwhile, are asking the high court for a narrow ruling that would strike down only the district’s tough handgun ban but leave their own gun restrictions intact.

Though the attorneys general argue that the Second Amendment provides an individual right to guns, it would be “oversimplistic” to conclude they are against all forms of gun control, said James Tierney, the former attorney general of Maine and director of Columbia University’s National State Attorneys General Program.

Indeed, in their brief, the attorneys general acknowledged the need for some government regulation of weapons, and statutes are on the books in all of their states that regulate guns in some way. Florida, for example, has a mandatory waiting period before weapons can be purchased and Pennsylvania requires guns to be sold with child-safety locks, according to the Brady Campaign.

“Reasonable minds can differ about the Second Amendment’s scope — that is, about which government regulations are permissible,” the 31 attorneys general wrote in their brief. “Subsequent cases may well present difficult questions about where precisely to draw that line. Those vexing issues are not presented in this case, however, and are appropriately left to another day.”

Politics also factors heavily into D.C. v. Heller, according to Henigan.

He said some state attorneys general — who are elected in 43 states — likely sided with Heller as a way to show constituents they support an individual-rights reading of the Second Amendment, even as they seek to preserve their own state statutes regulating guns.

“These are political actors. They don’t want to appear to be endorsing a handgun ban,” Henigan said.

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Contact John Gramlich at jgramlich@stateline.org.


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Gun Laws
By Ed Goodfield on Mar 4, 2008 8:45:14 PM

When will these opponents to gun ownership by law abiding citizens stop? It's a proven fact through the National Rifle Association, many city Police Chiefs,and even federal government research proved that the legal owners of guns(Law Abiding,) have saved lifes, just being there during the commission of a felony to stop it. Many lives have also been saved by the license to carry citizens who legally protected their lives and their families from home invasions,muggers on the street,and even during robberies of Banks, convenience stores,and other assorted places of business. Come on, we all know the police can not be everywhere, and I respect the law enforcement officials, for their job is not the easiest or safest. (My Father was a 30 year State Trooper) I have seen first hand the stress they undergo. To make a long story short,our law makers should stop making more outrageous stupid gun laws, and start having our court system Enforce to the fullest extent the laws we have now. Remember: If you let the system outlaw guns, Only outlaws will have guns!!!!!!!!!

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Gun Control
By Rick Armin on Mar 3, 2008 9:39:11 PM

Let's assume for a moment that the 2nd Amendment were to be interpreted as many of the founders intended, that no American tyrannt could raise a standing army greater than the combined might of an armed citizenry. If we ignored statistics that show that crime goes down where a large number of citizens are armed and assume that it, especially murder, goes up in proportion to the increase in gun ownership. How many years would it take for the death total to equal the death totals of one year where oppressive governments first disarmed the citizens before inaugurating a reign of terror?

I hope in the wake of what has been happening in this country in the last several decades we don't hear the old "it can't happen here" refrain.

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REAL News - Dick Cheney's NEXT Big Energy MONOPOLY Power RIPOFF:
By Elaine Medina on Mar 2, 2008 3:46:51 PM

REAL News - Dick Cheney's NEXT Big Energy MONOPOLY Power RIPOFF:

Obama is the pre-packaged "New & Improved Chocolate Flavor" Presidential candidate PRODUCT - being hyped & PUSHED by GE and its WHOLLY-Owned subsidiaries NBC & MSNBC...along with Westinghouse & its subsidiary CBS...while slamming the Clintons all day every day. (Assisted by...CNN/FOX/ and a lot of newspaper & radio media dependent on advertising$$.)

GE is the 2nd largest corporation on the planet.

Obama is IN with the Nuclear Industry: Excelon Corp of Illinois has been one of his largest contributors from his entry into politics to the present. Excelon is the largest nuke operator on the planet;owns Con-Ed of NY; more nukes in Illinois than any other state.

GE, Westinghouse, Excelon & 3 consortiums of other companies are planning to build 29 new nuclear power plants. Their Wholly-Owned & Wholly Influenced "News" media are selling the Obama Product because Obama is in favor of Nukes.

In 2005 Obama Voted FOR the Cheney Energy Bill (H.R.6) which ENABLED the nuke industry to make its Plans to build 29 new nukes-by Guaranteeing Taxpayer Payback of any nuke loans that default. (No nukes were built for the past 30 years because the banks wouldn't loan the money - too risky)

Obama Voted FOR the Cheney Energy Bill-despite the fact the Congressional Budget Office rated the risk of default on the nuke loans at 50% or greater. (Does that sound like...GOOD...JUDGMENT to You?)

[NY Times has several articles about the nuke plans & a map showing all 29 locations; Wikipedia covers the subject]

Clinton Voed AGAINST the Cheney Energy Bill and said her Energy Plan does not include nuclear.

? "Its about the FUTURE...Turn The PAGE" ?

Nope. ts about Turning the PAGE BACK to the PAST: Obsloete 50 yr old nuke power plants-the dirtiest most expensive kind/centrally-controlled MONOPOLY POWER-instead of inventing New, Clean, Green De-Centralized inexpensive Energy.

An ad campaign has already begun on the TV media to re-package & re-name nuclear power plants as: GREEN & CLEAN -for-everybody too young to remember the 1970's anti-nuke movement and all the Bad News about nuclear energy.

Don't be taken in by the ad campaigns-Google:'nuclear waste dumps' & read about the hundreds of BILLIONS of gallons of nuke waste at the Hanford Washington dump; 140 tons of plutonium stored at Rocky Flats, Colorado; Barnwell, South Carolina; leaking into groundwater and rivers; plutonium released into the air around Denver from 500 instances of fires at Rocky Flats; stored on-site at every nuke reactor in America...presenting hundreds of potential "dirty bomb" targets for terrorists.

Is it true that Obama takes No Contributions/NO MONEY from Registered Federal Lobbyists?

Yes. It's a LawyerSpeak/Trick of: Speaking a Small truth covering up a Big Lie.

Nope, doesn't take money from REGISTERED FEDERAL Lobbyists.

DOES take money from STATE Lobbyists, Not Registered Lobbyists, AND the wives, husbands, law partners, aunts, uncles cousins...of Registered Federal Lobbyists. Gets money from the same big corporate donors as any other candidate.

Obama's campaign finances are involved in the prosecution (by Patrick Fitzgerald)and trial of his friend of 20 years Antoin Rezko. Some of the funds... allegedly...extorted by Rezko went into Obama's campaign coffers. Curiously, Iraqi Power Plants amd fraud are also involved in Rezko's trial. (Google: Obama -Rezko- Alsammarae-Auichi- IRAQ POWER PLANTS)

GE & the same wealthy people who sold the "new & improved vanilla flavor" Presidential PRODUCTS: Reagan & Bush/s 1 & 2 - are behind the massive ADVERTISING CAMPAIGN to sell you OBAMA.

At the beginning of this campaign season a large majority of voters were looking forward to electing Clinton. Then Obama stepped in and started the dirty campaigning that has created the DIVISION he so hypocritically decries. Obama played "the race card" so he could win in South Carolina. He was caught red-handed playing that race card-but the media blamed it on Clinton-even though they all knew they were pushing the Big Lie.

With nearly ALL "the mainstream media" pimping for Obama & slamming, smearing, and lying about the Clintons-it is truly amazing enough voters have seen thru the Media-Created Obama "movement"-for Clinton to STILL be in the race.

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Gun Control
By JerryMark Brinkman on Mar 2, 2008 6:13:41 AM

To the poor lady who believes that 'GUNS cause Crime', I can only add, "Like Flies cause GARBAGE" or "A penis makes a man a RAPIST" or "having a vagina makes a woman a PROSTITUTE". Lets blame the car for the DRUNK DRIVER; or; Take your pick; did a CAR let Mary JO drown or was it the drunk, ANTI-GUN, rich, politician who left her in the CAR for hours without calling for assistance. 99.9% of all the guns in the United States have actually killed less people that TED KENNEDY'S CAR did on that night.


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Yes it's trued
By Harold Robbins on Mar 1, 2008 5:16:18 PM

Yes it's true that there are some crazy people out there with guns. That's why we need to moderate their influence by increasing the number of honest citizens with guns.

Laws do not prevent the crazy people from getting guns. They only make it difficult for honest and sane people to defend themselves and their families.

Gun control laws do not work to remove the crazy's guns because they do not obey the laws. There are insufficient cops who are armed to defend us and even though they have good response times, they cannot be everywhere at once and the Supreme Court has ruled they cannot be held responsible to defend the citizens. So if we cannot defend ourselves we are denied our natural right to self-defense.

Harold

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Gun Control
By Sherri Anderson on Mar 1, 2008 1:02:03 AM

Please. You need to think outside of emotionality!
Guns do not kill people. People kill people. With guns,
knifes, ballbats, and let us not forget the number one:CARS.
Ready to give up your car? Cars kill more people than anything else other than disease. How many innocent children have been killed in cars? Ever looked at statistics on this?

Most of the school incidences have started over bullying and
ridicule. This comes from parents that haven't taught that all people should be treated equally.

I don't support violence or weapons being used in this fashion, however, I feel that everyone has a right to protect themselves and their property from those who are lawless and the lawless will ALWAYS get guns. I bet the boy from V. Tech and the one in Ill. would have thought long and hard about whether they wanted to take these actions if those in the classrooms were armed. Its been proven in Texas that crime goes DOWN when the populace is armed.

Just my opinion

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Gun Laws
By Tom C on Feb 29, 2008 4:57:27 PM

31-5? That doesn't seem divisive. Instead, I think that shows a strong unity among the state AGs

The popular support, and strong support among the AGs points to the fact that the average American wants their rights protected.

It is the minority - a vocal fringe - that is anti-gun.

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Gun Laws
By Barbara Metzler on Feb 29, 2008 2:07:36 PM

Every day, people in the United States are shot by disturbed people running around with guns. The more guns -- the more more killings. Sorry, but we have to control guns. It's time for people to wake up and realize that guns cause trouble. Even worse is when guns are considered for "recreation."

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